get so upset about it? they are enjoying that other people are -- i will say this about ann romney. she is feisty and i love what she did, and it's so human and hope they don't keep her down too much. i did interview her two or three weeks ago and i said you seem unflappable. she has this way of talking to you. i'm not as good at this as i wish i were. her eyes are not batting around, as we do sometimes we were nervous or whatever. she's focused. and i said you seem unflappable, and she said, i'm less laughable than it was the last time around. she said i'm tough. and i think that's right. i think she's very tough. her husband has to be so controlled at all times, and so i think, she just sees herself as someone who can speak up for them. and eventually do, they will tell her to stop that i'm sure, but i love it. >> does anybody have a question? go ahead. >> hi. [inaudible] i'm wondering what you all think about -- [inaudible] thank you. about fact checking and about truth telling and truth vigilante in the famous phrase, norah and soledad both had viral moment for the pushed back.